tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6675359.post116735363694372580..comments2023-10-30T03:47:35.450+13:00Comments on Big News: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6675359.post-1167809867358217482007-01-03T20:37:00.000+13:002007-01-03T20:37:00.000+13:00Chuck:Obviously if a prostitute and her client is ...Chuck:Obviously if a prostitute and her client is under the influence of alcohol the chance of them using a condom correctly are significantly reduced.<BR/><BR/>I disagree. Using a condom correctly is really easy. I can't understand why people have problems. If I have had a couple of drinks then I will still have no problem putting it on. If she has had some drinks then she still can put it on. <BR/><BR/>If we are so drunk so as to unable to put a condom on correctly then we are probably unable to do the business anyway!<BR/><BR/>I would only agree with your statement if you said "excessive alcohol " and then security would through you out anyway.<BR/><BR/>Of course if you at home/bar etc then its different!<BR/><BR/><BR/>SbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6675359.post-1167803499830604752007-01-03T18:51:00.000+13:002007-01-03T18:51:00.000+13:00So using the figures from the site you quoted the ...So using the figures from the site you quoted the effective rate is between 90-95% not the 80% that you originally posted.<BR/><BR/>The WHO is currently quoting the figure of 96% for its protection value.<BR/><BR/>I always said "almost 100%" not "100%" I would say 96% is almost 100% compared with your figure of 80%.<BR/><BR/>The study you originally quoted from is a meta study. One of the studies they used in their model also reported a factor of 96%.<BR/><BR/>So using that sites figures condoms provide a very high but not perfect level of protection against HIV. You don't say how long the Italian study was but 1.2% for always correct always use condoms, is a very low rate and higher than 96% protection.<BR/><BR/>"None of twenty-four couples always using condoms became infected" so for them condoms were 100% effective!<BR/><BR/>"You are probably correct about prostitutes particularly if they are working in a brothel where they are not using drugs including alcohol" whats alcohol got to do with condom effectiveness in a brothel?<BR/><BR/><BR/>SbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6675359.post-1167789875435247572007-01-03T15:04:00.000+13:002007-01-03T15:04:00.000+13:00Chuck: You haven't said anything that contradicts ...Chuck: You haven't said anything that contradicts what I said. <BR/><BR/>Numerous studies have shown that when used correctly the 100% figure is obtained in the real world. <BR/><BR/>Numerous studies have shown that many people do not use condoms correctly. That does not mean that condoms are not 100% effective.<BR/><BR/>Its stupid to say that the 100% is the work of the AIDS foundation, its available from many studies for example the CDC uses the same figure<BR/>To quote their study<BR/><BR/>"In a two-year study of sero-discordant couples (in which one partner was HIV-positive and one was HIV-negative), no uninfected partner became infected among couples using condoms correctly and consistently at every act of vaginal or anal sex versus 10 percent of those using condoms inconsistently"<BR/><BR/>The reason for the high rate of HIV in the homosexual community is not that condoms do not work but that they are not using condoms.<BR/><BR/>I don't regard not putting on a condom as being a failure of the condom but the users of that condom.<BR/><BR/>That is why sex workers are not regarded as a STI vector any more by health professionals, because of their very high usage and correct usage of condoms.<BR/><BR/>SBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6675359.post-1167770302086005472007-01-03T09:38:00.000+13:002007-01-03T09:38:00.000+13:00Chuck: real trials have shown that used CORRECTLY ...Chuck: real trials have shown that used CORRECTLY condoms have an almost %100 success rate. Of all the STI's condoms are most effective against HIV.<BR/><BR/>Note I said CORRECTLY, that 80% figure that gets passed around includes failures such as forgetting to put it on!<BR/><BR/>SBSbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15345861480339318228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6675359.post-1167739556545842022007-01-03T01:05:00.000+13:002007-01-03T01:05:00.000+13:00If AIDs is not diagnosed and one has a promiscuity...If AIDs is not diagnosed and one has a promiscuity life, one should use protective material.<BR/><BR/>If AIDs is diagnosed, one's moral conscience should overrule one's desire to have sex.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com